Comments on: The Watering Down Continues! http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/the-watering-down-continues/ Ancient Origins - Modern Applications© Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:23:15 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Brian VanCise http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/the-watering-down-continues/#comment-653 Brian VanCise Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:45:28 +0000 http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/?p=2771#comment-653 Oh yes Mike it is very important to know who you are training with and that they have the real goods so to speak! Oh yes Mike it is very important to know who you are training with and that they have the real goods so to speak!

]]> By: mike hamer http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/the-watering-down-continues/#comment-652 mike hamer Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:17:48 +0000 http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/?p=2771#comment-652 That is really horrible!! I didn't even know that type of thing went on! That is really horrible!! I didn’t even know that type of thing went on!

]]> By: Brian VanCise http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/the-watering-down-continues/#comment-651 Brian VanCise Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:36:56 +0000 http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/?p=2771#comment-651 Absolutely Walt, We just have to keep going and make a difference day by day! I too also always go in with and open mind whether a seminar or training at someone's school. The best way is simply to learn what they are teaching and see if it works for you! If I train with someone they have my undivided attention and I try to seep in and experience their training! Brian Absolutely Walt,

We just have to keep going and make a difference day by day!

I too also always go in with and open mind whether a seminar
or training at someone’s school. The best way is simply
to learn what they are teaching and see if it works for you!
If I train with someone they have my undivided attention and
I try to seep in and experience their training!

Brian

]]> By: Walt http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/the-watering-down-continues/#comment-649 Walt Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:42:12 +0000 http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/?p=2771#comment-649 I usually wear a white belt when I go to a new school for just that reason (or whatever is the indicator for newbie). I try a few classes here and there and when I do use the weapon they use... i try and do it in their method (unless it is so bad that i run from the place screaming). In any case... the horror will continue... Because the public is uninformed. Until we change that... Regards, Walt I usually wear a white belt when I go to a new school for just that reason (or whatever is the indicator for newbie). I try a few classes here and there and when I do use the weapon they use… i try and do it in their method (unless it is so bad that i run from the place screaming).

In any case… the horror will continue… Because the public is uninformed. Until we change that…

Regards,
Walt

]]> By: Brian VanCise http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/the-watering-down-continues/#comment-648 Brian VanCise Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:56:57 +0000 http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/?p=2771#comment-648 Yes the watering down will continue when a fresh person goes in and becomes an instructor and then goes out and teaches. One of my biggest issues is that an instructor should and needs to have depth in training. Meaning they need to be able to answer questions and know how to guide a student correctly. People who attend weekend seminars and become an instructor just cannot do that. They just do not have the depth of knowledge. Yes the watering down will continue when a fresh person goes in and becomes an instructor and then goes out and teaches.

One of my biggest issues is that an instructor should and needs to have depth in training. Meaning they need to be able to answer questions and know how to guide a student correctly. People who attend weekend seminars and become an instructor just cannot do that. They just do not have the depth of knowledge.

]]> By: jks9199 http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/the-watering-down-continues/#comment-647 jks9199 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:38:21 +0000 http://brianvancise.wordpress.com/?p=2771#comment-647 I can buy the existence of dedicated instructor classes. After all, I have a couple of professional instructor certifications that were only 40 hour classes. But those are fairly narrow (OK... SFST isn't narrow -- but you go into the instructor class with extensive experience doing 'em, and have to demonstrate proficiency at the start of the class) classes. I could see teaching an experienced person the INSTRUCTOR side of things in a weekend, like some of the coaching certifications. But not in something that they haven't ever really worked with. Say a guy's an experienced user of a knife; yeah, he can take a weekend class, demonstrate competence and be shown how to teach it and get certified. But that's a far cry from the idea of taking someone, and in a weekend going from zero to teacher... Those "weekend instructor certification seminars" are ripoffs! And, what's worse, when that "instructor" goes home, they end up ripping of their own students, even if they have the best of intentions. Because they don't really know what they're teaching! I can buy the existence of dedicated instructor classes. After all, I have a couple of professional instructor certifications that were only 40 hour classes. But those are fairly narrow (OK… SFST isn’t narrow — but you go into the instructor class with extensive experience doing ‘em, and have to demonstrate proficiency at the start of the class) classes.

I could see teaching an experienced person the INSTRUCTOR side of things in a weekend, like some of the coaching certifications. But not in something that they haven’t ever really worked with. Say a guy’s an experienced user of a knife; yeah, he can take a weekend class, demonstrate competence and be shown how to teach it and get certified.

But that’s a far cry from the idea of taking someone, and in a weekend going from zero to teacher… Those “weekend instructor certification seminars” are ripoffs! And, what’s worse, when that “instructor” goes home, they end up ripping of their own students, even if they have the best of intentions. Because they don’t really know what they’re teaching!

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